No Mess No Dig Fence Installation Myths

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Welcome to A to Z Quality Fencing, where innovation in fence building is our top priority. Today, we’re excited to share our first “What’s Going On at A to Z Quality Fencing” video discussing our cutting-edge no mess no dig fence installation.

At A to Z Quality Fencing, we’re always seeking innovative solutions to build high-quality fences that are both efficient and durable. Our no mess, no dig fence installation method is just one example of our commitment to providing superior fencing solutions that meet the needs of homeowners and businesses.

Some people still believe that the old process of pouring concrete around a vinyl post is the only way to set it in the ground effectively. However, we’re here to tell you that there’s a better way and clear up misconceptions. Concrete may have been around for a long time, but that doesn’t mean it’s the only way to set posts. Our method of pounding is not only more efficient, but it also provides better fence quality and durability.

Read on to understand more and how the following statements are nothing but false:

  • Myth #1 – Concrete is stronger
  • Myth #2 – Pounding is cheaper and that’s why fence companies use it
  • Myth #3 – Pounding only benefits the contractor

Fence Post Quality

The quality of the fence materials used to construct your fence will impact the quality of your installation. In our video, we focus on the quality of vinyl fencing.

Most fence companies use standard 0.135″ thick, hollow vinyl posts set in concrete to build vinyl fences.

Our company prides itself on using only the highest quality materials for our vinyl fencing. Our vinyl posts are 0.147″ thick, with a galvanized steel post and high-density stiffeners inside to strengthen them further.

Fence Post Installation

Regarding any fence installation, it’s essential to consider how deep the post should go. Most fence companies embed posts in concrete about two and a half to three feet deep into the ground. However, we take it to the next level by driving a two-and-a-half-inch galvanized steel post five feet into the ground. This method ensures that our posts stay grounded, even in areas with a 48-inch frost line, such as Wisconsin and Minnesota.

But why choose driving over concrete, especially when working with vinyl? Well, first and foremost, concrete doesn’t adhere well to vinyl materials, leading to unpredictable results as time goes on. The vinyl post may contract and expand as temperatures change, eventually causing it or its concrete setting to pop out of the ground completely. We eliminate this issue by driving a galvanized steel post into the ground below the frost line and covering it with a vinyl sleeve, resulting in a much more durable fence.

Secondly, contrary to popular belief, the weakest part of a fence is at the ground level, not the material at the bottom of the post holding it into the ground. It’s at the point where the earth meets the fence where wind loads are strongest, and potential breakage can occur. A vinyl post set in concrete is hollow at ground level. It will suffer damage before a vinyl post containing a galvanized steel post.

We recently completed a fence spanning three-quarters around a yard. Previously, one of our competitors had used concrete in a similar installation on the other side the year prior. They used a hollow 0.135 post, which made their fence move quite a bit when pushed. In contrast, we used steel posts to stabilize our 0.147 vinyl posts. Even when shaken similarly, our post did not move a single section down the line. (Watch this in the video. It illustrates why steel posts are a more sturdy installation and provide a better result.)

Fence Costs

We’ve heard people claim that the no dig fence installation method is cheaper to install, and that’s why fence companies use it. In actuality, pounding posts is more expensive in terms of materials than concrete-set fence. For example, a bag of concrete mix costs approximately $4 per bag versus a steel post which costs up to $35 per post plus $4 per high-density stiffener (most posts require 2 stiffeners per post). Therefore it’s clear there is no cost benefit for this alternative method.

Pounding posts does save time and reduce labor costs. Unfortunately, some fence companies argue that this method cuts corners and only benefits the contractor. However, this is false. We take pride in our quick installation, averaging 200 ft of fencing a day per installation crew. This timely and efficient fence installation provides significant benefits to our clients too.

Five (5) Client Benefits for No Mess, No Dig Fence Installation

  1. Fast Installation
  2. Cleaner Installation
  3. More Durable Installation
  4. Easy, Less Expensive Repairs
  5. Works in Challenging Conditions

Fast Installation

One clear advantage for the customer is timely fence installation. Often, we complete no mess no dig fence installation in a day. (Versus concrete-set installation where the concrete needs time to cure.) So, our method is the better option for people that need quick and efficient fencing installments.

Cleaner Installation

We call it “no mess” for a reason. We can pound the galvanized steel poles into your virgin soil without digging up your yard, creating dirt piles, and displacing your grass, plants, and landscaping. We don’t bring big, heavy equipment into your yard, creating ruts or damaging your lawn.

No mess no dig fence installation provided quick installation for pet safety, clean installation, even with snow on the ground!
No dirt piles to clean-up and fast installation for pet safety, even in cold weather!

More Durable Installation

Using a galvanized steel post pounded below the frost line and running throughout the fence post makes a fence more durable against the elements at ground level, where fences are the weakest. In addition, the fencing material is a sleeve that covers the galvanized steel post above ground only. By not burying the fence material, the fence is more durable because it’s not subject to underground rot or rust that may shorten its lifespan. (Galvanized steel doesn’t rust.)

Easy, Less Expensive Repairs

While our video didn’t touch upon this benefit, it’s worth noting. If a fence post is damaged, it’s easy to remove the sleeve covering the pounded galvanized steel post and replace it with another one. At most, it will take a couple of hours to repair a damaged post. In a concrete set fence, the repair will take several days. First, the damaged post and concrete footing need to be dug out. Then after a new cement footing is poured and a new post set, the fence can be reassembled.

Install in Challenging Conditions

Finally, it’s worth noting that the no mess no dig fence installation method works in challenging conditions where a concrete set would be impossible. We can pound posts into the frozen ground, concrete slabs, rock, and other substrates you cannot dig through.

Posts pounded through stone and brick to create a beautiful fence installation.
Posts pounded through stone and brick to create a beautiful fence installation.

Final Thoughts on No Mess No Dig Fence Installation

We’ve seen issues with both types of fence installation when installers did not take the time to do it right. At our company, we feel confident about using the no mess no dig fence installation method when installing vinyl or any other fence. It’s a superior method, and we hope this article and video helped you consider the pros and cons of both installation methods and choose the one that’s right for you! 

Stay tuned for more updates and innovative solutions from your trusted fence builders. We offer quality fencing with a “no mess no dig fence installation,” and we warranty it with a 10-year labor warranty plus an additional warranty on the fence materials. Please give us a call to learn more or get a free online quote today!

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Much like our fence pickets, our company takes care to only build with rails with minor defects. Taking the time to use premium fence materials helps ensure your family can enjoy the security and privacy of your new fence for years to come.

Decorative Details

Our team is committed to going the extra mile in every detail of your fence project.

Customize your fence project by asking about our add-ons we offer: decorative post caps, trim, and custom railings.

Stronger Posts

We understand that your fence is only as strong as your posts. This is why we take great care to use the strongest posts, free of defects. We not only offer heavy-duty wood posts but our no-mess, no-dig installation adds a galvanized steel post inside the wooden post for an even stronger post.

All high-quality posts are built to ensure that your fence stands strong for years.

Better Fence Pickets

We build with only the best fence pickets. These are not the typical fence pickets anyone can buy from the local big-box stores. We have partnered with suppliers to provide the highest quality wood fencing materials.

Stronger Top Rails

The Modern Aluminum Fence top rails are routed into the posts creating an even stronger fence installation! The U channels are screwed to the frame and the entire fence is quickly assembled on-site using our no-mess, no-dig installation.

Modern, Sleek Design

A to Z Quality Fencing’s proprietary Modern Aluminum Fence features one of the most modern, sleek designs on the market. These fences are long-lasting and bring the best of A to Z’s vinyl (including simulated wood finishes) and aluminum products together, allowing for custom fabrication of modern, industrial, privacy fencing.

Stronger Fencing

Compared to wood, vinyl fencing is much stronger. Vinyl fencing is flexible and durable, which helps vinyl out-perform wood fencing in windy conditions and with environmental exposure to UV rays and weather.

Versatile Inlay Options

Want to create a super durable fence that’s as unique as you? With a Modern Aluminum Fence, you can pair A to Z Quality Fencing’s commercial aluminum fence with the inlay that best fits your style. Our vinyl inlay is available in 9 colors including various simulated wood tones, so you can create the exact look you want.

Durable Frame

Modern Aluminum Fence posts are composed of galvanized steel posts covered by our commercial-grade aluminum with its superior powder coat finish to create a stronger, longer-lasting fence that is more than weather-resistant – it will not rust with exposure to the elements!

Easy to Clean

Vinyl fencing can be cleaned easily with a regular garden hose. If you get a little mildew from moisture or shady conditions, you can use a mild dish soap and then spray off the fence with a garden hose. Vinyl fences are very easy to clean, making them a great option for low-maintenance fencing.

More Options Available

Vinyl fencing is available in a wide variety of configurations to match any property, home, or purpose. Iconic, white vinyl picket fences give a feel of classic Americana with that white-picket-fence-style. Darker vinyl fences can be installed to make a space look more elegant or modern. From short picket to tall privacy, vinyl fencing can be designed to enhance your backyard or business.

Beautiful Vinyl Fences

Vinyl fences are a bright, bold fence choice. Available in a variety of colors, vinyl fencing can be installed in a many configurations to help you enhance the beauty of your property. And, because vinyl isn’t as porous as wood, vinyl fences retain their color and finish much longer than wood fencing so you can enjoy your fence for years to come.

Strict Standards

All our aluminum fence meets BOCA (Building Officials and Code Administrators) code. These strict standards ensure your fencing is sturdy, durable, and non-climbable, protecting your property no matter if you are fencing in a business, backyard, or swimming pool!

The BOCA health and safety codes are critical when installing fencing around a swimming pool because they prevent children from getting over, under, or through our aluminum fencing.

Superior Powder Coating

Our superior powder coating provides a smooth, durable finish, more resistant to chips, scratches, fading, rust, and corrosion than other finishes. This long-lasting, low-maintenance finish results from our application and curing processes that melt the powder particles to create a smooth, continuous, and permanent bond to the aluminum.

In addition, our paint finish meets AAMA (American Architectural Manufacturers Association) specifications.

Custom Fabrication

You’re steps away from a one-of-a-kind aluminum fence made just for you! Our high-quality aluminum fencing comes from our sister company A to Z Fence Supplies. We assemble each aluminum fence to meet your unique design requirements, including color, finials, puppy panels, O-rings, and custom top edges.

Stronger Posts & Hardware

A benefit of choosing our team to install your chain link fence is that we use only the most durable posts and hardware.

Chain-link fences are known for being the last fences standing during hurricanes, tornados, and other severe weather events.

Unparalleled Durability

The weakest point of any fence is where the post comes out of the ground. Our no-mess, no-dig installation process pounds a galvanized steel post into the soil. Then we slide an aluminum post over the galvanized steel posts. A steel post is stronger at ground level than an aluminum post.

Our high-quality aluminum fence, combined with our no-mess, no-dig installation process, creates a highly durable aluminum fence.

Top Quality Rails

We pride ourselves on going the extra mile to ensure your investment is built to last.

Adding a top rail to your chain link fence project creates an extra level of durability and security.

Premium Chain Link Mesh

Our chain link mesh offers a high level of security for residential, commercial, and industrial properties.

Manufactured with you in mind to provide you with security and beauty at the same time.

Nice Finishing Caps

Our team prides themselves on putting in the little details that make your fence unique to you. Ask your representative about adding premium finishing caps to your Chain Link fence project.